Saudi Arabia/USA: What Does Prince Bandar’s New Position Mean for U.S. Intelligence?

 

     HRH Prince Bandar bin Sultan was recently appointed as the head of the Saudi Intelligence Services.   A follower of American Bedu raised a very good question for discussion based on this appointment.  Would Prince Bandard’s former position as a Saudi ambassador to the United States from 1983 until 2005 have the United States make more favorable decisions to Saudi Arabia?

To start with, I think Prince Bandar was appointed as head of the Saudi Intelligence Services for reasons with greater priority than the relationship or decisions made between Saudi Arabia and the United States.  Prince Bandar has an uncanny knack and talent for getting in behind the scenes of places and issues with conflict.  He is a problem solver and knows how to “cut to the chase” regardless of country, culture and issue.

Right now, I think he is going to be extremely busy with tracking and mounting operations against elements within the Kingdom who wish to do harm to the people and resources.  He will also be kept quite occupied with what is happening around the region, especially with Syria, Egypt and Yemen.

The United States has its own plans and agenda for what it would like to see happening in Syria, Egypt and Yemen.  It wants democracy in Syria and Egypt and for Al Qaida of the Arabian Peninsula to be destroyed in Yemen.  Saudi Arabia wanta to see greater stability in Syria and Egypt but does not define or see democracy in the same way as America.  Therefore, there will be common interests but with divides.  Both are on the same page as wishing to see Al Qaida destroyed.

Prince Bandar formed probably one of the closest relationships a foreign Ambassador to the United States could have with a host country government.  He not only had a fondness for the United States and Americans but he is also a master chameleon.  He can adapt himself to any role with any person.  This will be significant in his new position as master spymaster.

Yet it can not be overlooked that his relationship with the United States government suffered after September 2000.  Once United States government authorities made allegations of his wife allegedly having involvement with Al Qaida tainted charities, his relationship with the United States changed.  The incident was overblown in the press and brought severe criticism against Prince Bandar and his wife.  To falsely taint the reputation of the wife of such a respected Saudi official is an unforgiveable offense .  Shortly thereafter Prince Bandar began his plans to leave the United States and step down as the Dean of the Ambassadorial Corps.

     Saudi intelligence and American intelligence services will continue to cooperate on issues of mutual interest.  No one probably knows or understands the mindset of U.S. intelligence better than Prince Bandar and those closest to him.  If anyone can influence the direction of U.S. intelligence interests vis-à-vis Saudi Arabia, it likely is Prince Bandar.

There is no doubt that Prince Bandar is someone an intelligence organization wants on their side.  Personally, I think this is a critical time of history for Saudi Arabia, the GCC and the rest of the world and the right time for Prince Bandar to head Saudi’s intelligence service.

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22 Responses

  1. Miss reading of Bandar. Analysis based on facts will be posted here soon.

  2. “Right now, I think he is going to be extremely busy with tracking and mounting operations against elements within the Kingdom who wish to do harm to the people and resources.” Um, no. His first priority is to protect the persons, power, positions and wealth of his family aka Beit Al Saud.

  3. I’m curious why his wife was accused. Was Michele Bachmann involved?

  4. Don’t forget what you wrote here though.
    americanbedu.com/2012/08/06/saudi-arabia-girlsdont-do-it/

  5. What elements in KSA does he want to mount an attack against? The Shi’a?
    I’ve heard lots about him being corrupt, taking mega bribes from the USA, and other dirty deeds. Hmmm…..

  6. I never said that HE would plan to mount any attacks but ensure the Kingdom was protected against any attacks. There has been religious unrest and militant (Al Qaida oriented) unrest.

    My personal opinion is that Prince Bandar is among the most honorable but at the same time, not concerned or fearful of perceptions in regards to doing what it takes to get a job done.

  7. Hmmmm…..

  8. Lol

  9. @All
    This topic is dangerous to be discussed here. We (Public at large) can not win.
    I think Wendy anf Coolred are correct who said “HMMMMMMMMMMMMand Lolllllllllllllllllll
    This topic must be dropped.

  10. I pray in this holy month while I am fasting that Allah SWT destroy this regime beggining with the so called intelligence agency that imprisoned thousands of people to protect America and Israel’s intrest in the land of Mohamad PBUH

  11. Hmmm. Where does one start?

    Bandar aka Bandar Bin Bush certainly used to be a firm pair of hands, but recently that grasp has been shakier. Although Bandar endeared himself to successive U.S. administrations for being able to get things done — as well as the sumptuous parties he hosted at his official residence in Virginia overlooking the Potomac — the prevailing story about him recently has been about his mental state.

    William Sampson, a friendly biographer, has noted that Bandar’s “first period of full-blown depression” came in the mid-1990s. Another not-too-friendly biographer, David Ottaway, described Bandar as a “more than occasional drinker,” and most conversations about him nowadays seem to revolve around, only partly mischievously, whether he had finished detoxification or not.

    But for some mysterious reasons, King Abdullah has chosen Prince Bandar for a role that, without too much hyperbole, might be described as “Allah Save The King” phenomenon. Especially given their sinister compatibility of views, both being Syriaphiles and Syria-centerics.

    Both are neither a legit prince nor a legit ruler. They are part of the brutal wahabi sect that promotes terrorism and torture of women. The biggest threat to US national security are the fanatical religious freaks and the King that funds terror, hiding their brutal sect called wahabis. Both are nothing but puppets installed by the British a century ago and later adopted by the US as harlots almost half a century later.

    Riyadh must be a den of vipers. The 1% in Saudi Arabia is living in their own little bubble of backstabbing, double dealing, and triple dealing while the Saudi population as a whole grows more restive. It all seems as if Saudi Arabia may be in its own stages of a prerevolutionary season of discontent.

    As long as there are all those princes, whoring around, spending like spoiled fools, its hard to take anyone seriously. They are a bunch of Neros fiddling while the Saudi days are numbered. Paying off terrorists states, Al Qaeda and other terrorists groups will end soon. The Saudi will fall to a Iranian type movement. Switzerland and Monaco will gain hundreds of new inhabitants; their treasuries will gain billions. :)-

  12. Sami:

    Get over the scare tactic. People talk about all kinds of stuff and it is okay even to speculate even on the cloak and dagger level.

  13. Mohammad, I hate to tell you this, but the interests of the Saudi government (and/.or the royal family) are NOT controlled by the US, much less the jews.

    The primarily objective of this regime is to protect the necks and privileges and power and fortunes of the Saud family. Nothing is more important than this, not the Arab people, not the law, not human rights, not notions of decency, not the US and not even Islam. All decisions are made by a small group of people and they have no friends, only tools and useful collaborators. It is that simple. (Linda has it right, but again, this is common knowledge!)

    Whatever they are (see above) I would say also that the Sauds are not stupid or fools. Bandar is probably a good choice, but he will not made key decisions without a consensus from the small group that runs the country.

    Oh yes, Mohammad, please quit blaming everything on the damn infidels (jews, the US, crusaders, colonialists, the media, etc). . Breathe deeply, then take a cold, hard look at your religion, your prophet and what Muslims do and admit that there are serious issues there, somewhere. Be a man. Yes, we (infidels) may have helped create this mess, but you did most of it on your own without us!

    The House of Saud, for all their defects, are no worse than the average Muslim when it comes to lack of honesty and integrity. It is only a matter of degree. That hurts, doesn’t it.

    Boy I am in form today!

  14. Jay, if by on form you mean that you are spouting prejudiced and uninformed bile then on form you must be. Please check the debate page, i am still waiting for you to provide a reference to for the Quranic quote you mentioned. I realize that you like to convey an image of yourself as enlightened and knowledgeable but I am afraid without producing references you are just blowing hot air. No worse than your average Islamaphobe.

  15. human1, on August 16, 2012 at 12:34 am said: No worse than your average Islamaphobe.

    Human1 – Since you are off topic and we don’t want the wrath of moderator upon us, please go to the debate page. Thanks!

  16. OK, Mr. Human, later tonight I’ll get out the old notebook and look up the quotes. Anything to keep AMBedu readers happy.

    As to Islamophobe, the word doesn’t quite fit me because I am not afraid of Islam or Muslims, I just dislike their theology (might be the old “lower than animals” stuff you guys believe about us) and they way Muslims treat (or mistreat) others — without any ability to reflect on their actions. According to most Muslims I’ve encountered (including on this blog), It seems that nothing Islam teaches or that Muslims do has anything to do with the ‘real’ Islam and Muslims. “Fascinating”, as Spock said.

    Or maybe its due to the the fact that Muslims seemed fit to threaten to find and kill me (yawn) AND my family (Unacceptable) because I said things they didn’t like (but absolutely true). What kind of people does thing like this?

    And yes, X, let us take this to the debate page. We don’t want the Wrath of the Cat-Woman upon us. MIght not be afraid of Muslims, but Carol is a whole another
    .

  17. OK, Mr. Human, later tonight I’ll get out the old notebook and look up the quotes. Anything to keep AMBedu readers happy.

    As to Islamophobe, the word doesn’t quite fit me because I am not afraid of Islam or Muslims, I just dislike their theology (might be the old “lower than animals” stuff you guys believe about us) and they way Muslims treat (or mistreat) others — without any ability to reflect on their actions. According to most Muslims I’ve encountered (including on this blog), It seems that nothing Islam teaches or that Muslims do has anything to do with the ‘real’ Islam and Muslims. “Fascinating”, as Spock said.

    Or maybe its due to the the fact that Muslims seemed fit to threaten to find and kill me (yawn) AND my family (Unacceptable) because I said things they didn’t like (but absolutely true). What kind of people does thing like this?

    And yes, let us take this to the debate page. We don’t want the Wrath of the Cat-Woman upon us. MIght not be afraid of Muslims, but Carol is a whole another
    .

  18. Do you have any facts? Or just repeating what orhers said?. Thank you

  19. I stunned from your comment! Where are you from?.

  20. I would like to know what is the good way, you think, to move the regime?.

  21. Have you been in Saudi Arabia or met anyone of the Royal family? What is rgime in most of Europ countries?.

  22. I’m agree with in in some words while I’m not in others. Most people in SA are satisfied on Al Saud regime. There is a lot of progress comparing with other countries. I bleem many people who can advisor consult while they did not do anything. SA need good people to sail to safe land.

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