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	<title>Comments on: Saudi Arabia: Israelis in Makkah</title>
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	<description>Experiences and observations of a former American diplomat now married to a Saudi and living in KSA...</description>
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		<title>By: مها نور إلهي</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[مها نور إلهي]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Saudi Arabia we don&#039;t know that there is a country called Isreal...it never exists in our dictionary. It&#039;s Palestine only, so it&#039;s not shocking to see Palestinians perfroming Hajj. 

Regardless of all the political agreements, on any Arabian map of the world, there is no such country called isreal. Look at any Arabic georaphy book, and you will discover the shocking truth about the Third World ;) 
By the way, those books are revised and updated annually :)

Thanks for the refreshing and inspiring post. I loved it! 

Maha Noor Elahi 
www.saudirevelations.wordpress.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Saudi Arabia we don&#8217;t know that there is a country called Isreal&#8230;it never exists in our dictionary. It&#8217;s Palestine only, so it&#8217;s not shocking to see Palestinians perfroming Hajj. </p>
<p>Regardless of all the political agreements, on any Arabian map of the world, there is no such country called isreal. Look at any Arabic georaphy book, and you will discover the shocking truth about the Third World <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
By the way, those books are revised and updated annually <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the refreshing and inspiring post. I loved it! </p>
<p>Maha Noor Elahi<br />
<a href="http://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saudirevelations.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saad Al Dosari, According to the link that Carol provided they are not quite readily welcomed 

&#039;Israeli Muslims wishing to embark on the journey usually contact one of several associations dealing with pilgrims. Non-Muslims cannot take part in the event. The pilgrims register their details and submit passport photos, which are then sent to the Jordanian Ministry of Islamic Trust (Waqf). 

Once they cross the border from Israel into Jordan, a local official collects their Israeli passports and they are issued temporary Jordanian passports. The documents are valid for a month or two months, depending on the season. 

The Jordanian passports are presented at the border crossing with Saudi Arabia, and the pilgrims then head for Mecca as Jordanian nationals. &#039;

Sounds to me like politics trumps God in KSA and creates a &#039;tax&#039; on Israeli Muslims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saad Al Dosari, According to the link that Carol provided they are not quite readily welcomed </p>
<p>&#8216;Israeli Muslims wishing to embark on the journey usually contact one of several associations dealing with pilgrims. Non-Muslims cannot take part in the event. The pilgrims register their details and submit passport photos, which are then sent to the Jordanian Ministry of Islamic Trust (Waqf). </p>
<p>Once they cross the border from Israel into Jordan, a local official collects their Israeli passports and they are issued temporary Jordanian passports. The documents are valid for a month or two months, depending on the season. </p>
<p>The Jordanian passports are presented at the border crossing with Saudi Arabia, and the pilgrims then head for Mecca as Jordanian nationals. &#8216;</p>
<p>Sounds to me like politics trumps God in KSA and creates a &#8216;tax&#8217; on Israeli Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Saad Al Dosari</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saad Al Dosari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting … putting all politics aside, this is the great message of Hajj … all are equal in front of Almighty God … 

I am also seeing the discussion about Israelis, Arab-Israelis, or Palestinian –Israelis are all irrelevant in regard to Hajj. If they are Muslims, they are welcomed to Makkah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting … putting all politics aside, this is the great message of Hajj … all are equal in front of Almighty God … </p>
<p>I am also seeing the discussion about Israelis, Arab-Israelis, or Palestinian –Israelis are all irrelevant in regard to Hajj. If they are Muslims, they are welcomed to Makkah.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Wikipedia only 7 out of 120 seats in the Israeli parliament are occupied by Arab parties which wouldn&#039;t put them in a very strong position to improve the rights of Arab citizens of Israel.

There was even an attempt by the Central Elections Committee  to ban the participation of the two Arab parties United Arab List-Ta&#039;al and Balad for alleged disloyalty to the state and support of Israel&#039;s enemies, the ban was, by a vote of 8 to 1, overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court, allowing the parties to participate. One would hope something like this wouldn&#039;t happen in the USA or any other country claiming to be a democracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia only 7 out of 120 seats in the Israeli parliament are occupied by Arab parties which wouldn&#8217;t put them in a very strong position to improve the rights of Arab citizens of Israel.</p>
<p>There was even an attempt by the Central Elections Committee  to ban the participation of the two Arab parties United Arab List-Ta&#8217;al and Balad for alleged disloyalty to the state and support of Israel&#8217;s enemies, the ban was, by a vote of 8 to 1, overturned by the Israeli Supreme Court, allowing the parties to participate. One would hope something like this wouldn&#8217;t happen in the USA or any other country claiming to be a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Sinan</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Sinan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Lynn,

  No, they are not equal citizens.  They get different fundind for schools, hospitals, education and many other things.  Being that they are not Jewish many things are not open to them that are open to Jewish Israelis.  Land ownership and purchase is one of the big ones.

  Many pro Israelis here in the USA like to say that &quot;Israel is just like us&quot;.  I would agree if the &quot;us&quot; they are talking about is a militarised Jim Crow/segregated America, then yeah, they are &quot;just like us&quot;.

  The only difference is that we have long since abolished the very things that once made us &quot;just like them&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lynn,</p>
<p>  No, they are not equal citizens.  They get different fundind for schools, hospitals, education and many other things.  Being that they are not Jewish many things are not open to them that are open to Jewish Israelis.  Land ownership and purchase is one of the big ones.</p>
<p>  Many pro Israelis here in the USA like to say that &#8220;Israel is just like us&#8221;.  I would agree if the &#8220;us&#8221; they are talking about is a militarised Jim Crow/segregated America, then yeah, they are &#8220;just like us&#8221;.</p>
<p>  The only difference is that we have long since abolished the very things that once made us &#8220;just like them&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry typo.
living within ...etc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry typo.<br />
living within &#8230;etc</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are Palestinians (Arabs of 1948) living with Israeli occupied territory 
you may read about them here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are Palestinians (Arabs of 1948) living with Israeli occupied territory<br />
you may read about them here :<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/25/saudi-arabia-israelis-in-makkah/#comment-31695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abu Sinan,
Palestinian Israelis are not equal citizens in their country? What rights do they not have that other Israelis have? I hope those Palestinian members of the Israeli Parliament can do something to help them get their equal rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Sinan,<br />
Palestinian Israelis are not equal citizens in their country? What rights do they not have that other Israelis have? I hope those Palestinian members of the Israeli Parliament can do something to help them get their equal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t understand the question.  Are you asking why Palestinians choose to live inside of Israel?  They were born there, their parents were born there and their grandparents generations back were born there.  Where else would they go?  Those I know choose to be called Palestinians from inside the Green Line, or if they  must, Palestinian-Israelis, but not Arab Israelis, as that does not show their true relationship with the land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I don&#8217;t understand the question.  Are you asking why Palestinians choose to live inside of Israel?  They were born there, their parents were born there and their grandparents generations back were born there.  Where else would they go?  Those I know choose to be called Palestinians from inside the Green Line, or if they  must, Palestinian-Israelis, but not Arab Israelis, as that does not show their true relationship with the land.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Sinan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abu Sinan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Oss,

   I guess the choice is to live on the land where their families have been for 1,000 years and more, or flee.  They stay in the hopes one day they will be equal citizens in the country where they have always lived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oss,</p>
<p>   I guess the choice is to live on the land where their families have been for 1,000 years and more, or flee.  They stay in the hopes one day they will be equal citizens in the country where they have always lived.</p>
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