<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Saudi Arabia:  What is the Distinction of Islamist Intelligence from Intelligence?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/</link>
	<description>Experiences and observations of a former American diplomat now married to a Saudi and living in KSA...</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 20:18:42 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31116</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[American Muslims part is the easier one - since the incident took place in the US, &quot;American Muslims&quot; refers to the Muslims in the US who expressed regrets etc.

About the title with Islamist Intelligence, I guess in their effort to make it concised, they made the title cryptic - what they seem to have meant is that the US had intelligence information of the contact of this army shooter with an Islamist group. Of course it should have been worded differently.

An Islamist may be understood as an extremist, orthodox person who is using Islam for anti-humanitarian activities. In contrast, a Muslim may or may not be orthodox in a religious sense, but is not anti-humanitarian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Muslims part is the easier one &#8211; since the incident took place in the US, &#8220;American Muslims&#8221; refers to the Muslims in the US who expressed regrets etc.</p>
<p>About the title with Islamist Intelligence, I guess in their effort to make it concised, they made the title cryptic &#8211; what they seem to have meant is that the US had intelligence information of the contact of this army shooter with an Islamist group. Of course it should have been worded differently.</p>
<p>An Islamist may be understood as an extremist, orthodox person who is using Islam for anti-humanitarian activities. In contrast, a Muslim may or may not be orthodox in a religious sense, but is not anti-humanitarian.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31113</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[anon, &#039;Islamist is a totally stupid meaningless word...&#039; 

Much the same as the made up word &#039;Islamophobe&#039; eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon, &#8216;Islamist is a totally stupid meaningless word&#8230;&#8217; </p>
<p>Much the same as the made up word &#8216;Islamophobe&#8217; eh?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31112</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Susanne, I&#039;m sure Abu Sinan was just kidding. BUT, those &#039;Islamists&#039; would say that he and your friends are not truly Muslims if they didn&#039;t feel that way and if your friends were in a face to face meeting with them they&#039;d probably find themselves nodding in agreement with most things that the Islamists had to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susanne, I&#8217;m sure Abu Sinan was just kidding. BUT, those &#8216;Islamists&#8217; would say that he and your friends are not truly Muslims if they didn&#8217;t feel that way and if your friends were in a face to face meeting with them they&#8217;d probably find themselves nodding in agreement with most things that the Islamists had to say.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: susanne430</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[susanne430]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31101</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have heard it said that all Muslims are interested in global domination………the “moderate” Muslims just hide it better.&quot;

My &quot;moderate&quot; Muslim friend swears up and down this is not the case at all.  He says, &quot;Did you ever get this impression from me or your other Syrian friends?&quot; He swears they don&#039;t even want a country run by sharia after seeing how disagreeable so-called Muslim countries have been ... all the while calling themselves &quot;Islamic countries.&quot;

Carol, I often think of an Islamist as one who is more militant in his Muslim beliefs.  That&#039;s the connotation I&#039;ve gotten from reading things the last few years.  If they are talking about peaceful Muslims - the vast majority, they use Muslims. &quot;Islamist&quot; militarizes it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have heard it said that all Muslims are interested in global domination………the “moderate” Muslims just hide it better.&#8221;</p>
<p>My &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslim friend swears up and down this is not the case at all.  He says, &#8220;Did you ever get this impression from me or your other Syrian friends?&#8221; He swears they don&#8217;t even want a country run by sharia after seeing how disagreeable so-called Muslim countries have been &#8230; all the while calling themselves &#8220;Islamic countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carol, I often think of an Islamist as one who is more militant in his Muslim beliefs.  That&#8217;s the connotation I&#8217;ve gotten from reading things the last few years.  If they are talking about peaceful Muslims &#8211; the vast majority, they use Muslims. &#8220;Islamist&#8221; militarizes it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lark</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31099</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31099</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I think you guys are avoiding the difficult questions. Hasan gave a presentation to colleagues on a &#039;medical issue&#039; and he chose the relationship between Muslims in the American military and America fighting wars in Muslim countries, and the potential for conflict, including violence, as a result. 

He was extremely clear in his presentation, drawing a connection between conflicts of loyalties for Muslims and Muslim doctrines, fatwas, etc. 

If you don&#039;t think this is an issue specifically related to Islam, argue with him and his presentation. Here it is:
http://tinyurl.com/yjbszhm

I looked at it, it looks pretty well grounded to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys are avoiding the difficult questions. Hasan gave a presentation to colleagues on a &#8216;medical issue&#8217; and he chose the relationship between Muslims in the American military and America fighting wars in Muslim countries, and the potential for conflict, including violence, as a result. </p>
<p>He was extremely clear in his presentation, drawing a connection between conflicts of loyalties for Muslims and Muslim doctrines, fatwas, etc. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think this is an issue specifically related to Islam, argue with him and his presentation. Here it is:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjbszhm" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjbszhm</a></p>
<p>I looked at it, it looks pretty well grounded to me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31097</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Islamist is a totally stupid meaningless word that attempts to Anglicize an Arabic word, advertise it as intellectual and with deep meaning while actually only superficially pretending to bypass the connotations that are invariably associated with it by its religious context. In reality, it&#039;s those connotations and the religious context which are being manipulated to put the religion of Islam in a hateful, bigoted, misrepresented terminology]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamist is a totally stupid meaningless word that attempts to Anglicize an Arabic word, advertise it as intellectual and with deep meaning while actually only superficially pretending to bypass the connotations that are invariably associated with it by its religious context. In reality, it&#8217;s those connotations and the religious context which are being manipulated to put the religion of Islam in a hateful, bigoted, misrepresented terminology</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: coolred38</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coolred38]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31096</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Funny enough...as far as i know there is no such word in arabic...its a completely made up english word....and if memory serves me correctly...the media made it up...rather like they made up Holy War for Jihad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny enough&#8230;as far as i know there is no such word in arabic&#8230;its a completely made up english word&#8230;.and if memory serves me correctly&#8230;the media made it up&#8230;rather like they made up Holy War for Jihad.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mariam</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31095</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mariam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31095</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I enjoy linguistic puzzles, and I am wondering if the word Muslim has connotations in the USA regarding &quot;Black Muslims&quot; as in &quot;Nation of Islam&quot;.

Islamist does seem to connote a formal movement with violence at its core.

Interesting, I wonder if the perpetrator went to medical school paid for by the US ignoring the fact that the US had been at war in the ME for 8 years  Did he think he would not have to serve??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy linguistic puzzles, and I am wondering if the word Muslim has connotations in the USA regarding &#8220;Black Muslims&#8221; as in &#8220;Nation of Islam&#8221;.</p>
<p>Islamist does seem to connote a formal movement with violence at its core.</p>
<p>Interesting, I wonder if the perpetrator went to medical school paid for by the US ignoring the fact that the US had been at war in the ME for 8 years  Did he think he would not have to serve??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: oby</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31094</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[YQ

The reason that america will not use it&#039;s media as a tool is because IMO they want to take extreme care not to slander people (Muslims) who are not of the extremist ideology.  Because you think that america has a war against Muslims you don&#039;t understand what the war is about. It is not about Muslims...people who live peaceably with their fellow citizens should not be lumped in with those who would do whatever they could to get rid of those who do not adhere to their own extremist ideologies and that would include other Muslims who believe in coexistence.

The problem with attitudes like yours is that you believe because we have issues with terrorists that kill and bomb not only non Muslims but vast amounts of Muslims as well, that we are against ALL Muslims as a whole. Ridiculous. And because care is taken (sometimes to the extreme of political correctness) to try to weed out the extremists from the NON who don&#039;t deserve the slander, sometimes extremists slip through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YQ</p>
<p>The reason that america will not use it&#8217;s media as a tool is because IMO they want to take extreme care not to slander people (Muslims) who are not of the extremist ideology.  Because you think that america has a war against Muslims you don&#8217;t understand what the war is about. It is not about Muslims&#8230;people who live peaceably with their fellow citizens should not be lumped in with those who would do whatever they could to get rid of those who do not adhere to their own extremist ideologies and that would include other Muslims who believe in coexistence.</p>
<p>The problem with attitudes like yours is that you believe because we have issues with terrorists that kill and bomb not only non Muslims but vast amounts of Muslims as well, that we are against ALL Muslims as a whole. Ridiculous. And because care is taken (sometimes to the extreme of political correctness) to try to weed out the extremists from the NON who don&#8217;t deserve the slander, sometimes extremists slip through.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Y Q</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2009/11/10/saudi-arabia-what-is-the-distinction-of-islamist-intelligence-from-intelligence/#comment-31093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Y Q]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://americanbedu.com/?p=4627#comment-31093</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[lol you people still believe the same 10 years old &quot;had links with alqaeieieieieieieieida&quot; crap ??

if america is in a war against Muslims then i do not understand why it will NOT use its media as a tool against the Muslims. but this is alll normal. stupidity is when Muslims believe the media and stand up against their own people...
people who are so ignorant tht they  are willing to travel thousands of miles fighting against &quot;extremists&quot; yet they dont wanna put a little effort digging the truth OR hearing the other side...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol you people still believe the same 10 years old &#8220;had links with alqaeieieieieieieieida&#8221; crap ??</p>
<p>if america is in a war against Muslims then i do not understand why it will NOT use its media as a tool against the Muslims. but this is alll normal. stupidity is when Muslims believe the media and stand up against their own people&#8230;<br />
people who are so ignorant tht they  are willing to travel thousands of miles fighting against &#8220;extremists&#8221; yet they dont wanna put a little effort digging the truth OR hearing the other side&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

