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	<title>Comments on: Saudi Guide to Dating – What Every Male &amp; Female Should Know</title>
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	<description>Experiences and observations of a former American diplomat now married to a Saudi and living in KSA...</description>
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		<title>By: American Bedu</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/12/05/saudi-guide-to-dating-%e2%80%93-what-every-male-female-should-know/#comment-80582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Bedu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Russia - Thanks for sharing your perspective and I know many emphasize with you on the repression and segregation.  It really makes one wonder why the vice police need to be observing that citizens behave...I mean I know that Saudis (men or women) will not go wild like monkeys or anything if segregation were lifted.  Right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russia &#8211; Thanks for sharing your perspective and I know many emphasize with you on the repression and segregation.  It really makes one wonder why the vice police need to be observing that citizens behave&#8230;I mean I know that Saudis (men or women) will not go wild like monkeys or anything if segregation were lifted.  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: russia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[russia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well,im a Saudi guy,and i have no &quot;bad intentions&quot; or want to film a girl or any of that sort,there are pigs indeed,and in every country there are! its just getting annoying to me,i have a need to meet girls and have this &quot;human need&quot; fulfilled....everything in this country just puts any kind of energy down,im afraid to break the law because u can just be thrown into jail and if there was no charge they can make up one and force u to sign on it,since no lawyer does have to be there or anything they can just do about anything,im a very good person,and i&#039;d love to meet girls, and its reallllly annoying when your a 22 yo handsome guy with skills of a 15 yo, and no country in the world has a system like that! so whatever these young guys do is rather a result of such repression,and also,the problem with the vice police *whom i never consider as police* they LOOK for problems,ITS NOT UR ****ing business! we want to live :&#039;( ,,,the result of such repression is always a recoil! the guys and girls go outside and act totally different and do the totally opposite of what they do HERE &quot;not talking about all&quot;....im a young man,and i truely get depressed very often,and all that effected every aspect of my life,bad highschool grades,barely studying thru college....i just HATE it :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,im a Saudi guy,and i have no &#8220;bad intentions&#8221; or want to film a girl or any of that sort,there are pigs indeed,and in every country there are! its just getting annoying to me,i have a need to meet girls and have this &#8220;human need&#8221; fulfilled&#8230;.everything in this country just puts any kind of energy down,im afraid to break the law because u can just be thrown into jail and if there was no charge they can make up one and force u to sign on it,since no lawyer does have to be there or anything they can just do about anything,im a very good person,and i&#8217;d love to meet girls, and its reallllly annoying when your a 22 yo handsome guy with skills of a 15 yo, and no country in the world has a system like that! so whatever these young guys do is rather a result of such repression,and also,the problem with the vice police *whom i never consider as police* they LOOK for problems,ITS NOT UR ****ing business! we want to live :&#8217;( ,,,the result of such repression is always a recoil! the guys and girls go outside and act totally different and do the totally opposite of what they do HERE &#8220;not talking about all&#8221;&#8230;.im a young man,and i truely get depressed very often,and all that effected every aspect of my life,bad highschool grades,barely studying thru college&#8230;.i just HATE it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Saudi Women Behind Wheels: THE END OF VIRGINTY AND MARRIAGE AND STUFF. &#171; owlolive</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/12/05/saudi-guide-to-dating-%e2%80%93-what-every-male-female-should-know/#comment-75615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saudi Women Behind Wheels: THE END OF VIRGINTY AND MARRIAGE AND STUFF. &#171; owlolive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] completely chaste country in which none of this promiscuity and relationship riffraff happens? RIGHT, RIGHT? Those women in their cars shall destroy our pristine chastity and wreak promiscuous [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] completely chaste country in which none of this promiscuity and relationship riffraff happens? RIGHT, RIGHT? Those women in their cars shall destroy our pristine chastity and wreak promiscuous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saudi Arabia: Love and Marriage – Are the Two Compatible? &#171; American Bedu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saudi Arabia: Love and Marriage – Are the Two Compatible? &#171; American Bedu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are powerful questions and sensitive questions.  Yes; dating and public mixing of the sexes is prohibited.  However, that does not prevent young Saudis from [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are powerful questions and sensitive questions.  Yes; dating and public mixing of the sexes is prohibited.  However, that does not prevent young Saudis from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys are there any popular dating spots in Riyadh saudi Arabia and if we wants to be Friends (in good sense - Friends with girls ), what is the way to randomly connect with girls with good personalities. Kindly please guide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys are there any popular dating spots in Riyadh saudi Arabia and if we wants to be Friends (in good sense &#8211; Friends with girls ), what is the way to randomly connect with girls with good personalities. Kindly please guide.</p>
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		<title>By: Youknowwho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Youknowwho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aafke-art..thanks for the consolation. I really hope it gets better for both (males and females) before its too late. 

Thanks for dinner inviation - feel obliged (by the way, was it to be in saudi or abroad)...   :)

I strongly believe that if the youth of this country takes the step to voice their opinion to the government and demand for changes in law, we still have hope otherwise many are on the verge of loosing their orientation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aafke-art..thanks for the consolation. I really hope it gets better for both (males and females) before its too late. </p>
<p>Thanks for dinner inviation &#8211; feel obliged (by the way, was it to be in saudi or abroad)&#8230;   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I strongly believe that if the youth of this country takes the step to voice their opinion to the government and demand for changes in law, we still have hope otherwise many are on the verge of loosing their orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke-Art</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aafke-Art]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had not read fooschies comment before. How utterly sad...
Youknowwho, very good comment, thank you for sharing. I wish things were better for you. Try to get a scholarship abroad, and live in the normal world for a while, I&#039;ll take you out to dinner!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not read fooschies comment before. How utterly sad&#8230;<br />
Youknowwho, very good comment, thank you for sharing. I wish things were better for you. Try to get a scholarship abroad, and live in the normal world for a while, I&#8217;ll take you out to dinner!</p>
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		<title>By: Youknowwho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Youknowwho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[American Bedu, i appreciate your blog as this topic is illogically considered a taboo in this country KSA. I absolutely think that your tips were completely practical and nothing inappropriate was written

PS: I hope you will write more blogs on similar topics for people to read and learn. 

As for Fooschie, i completely understand your situation and feel that every normal Straight guy in this country feels the same. Rules are so rigid and strict that the only kind who can thrive in this country happily are the homosexuals probably. Like its frustrating that these rules are made by Iliterate, rigid and conservative members of &quot;Committee for promotion of virtue and prevention of Vice&quot;. I think people like Prince Waleed bin Talal should be in control of this country. All the Rulers do is impose rigid islamic laws without putting ENOUGH imphasis on Education, Industrialization and Women rights. 

I think dating is perfectly normal if its within the limits of Modesty. Its more of a learning experince than alone just being a romantic ecspasade. I do agree these things exist in Saudi society.

You people said that there are things happening in Saudi society which are more open and wierd than western societies but are kept hidden. I completely agree with you guys on this. but why is this the situation? Why? Because this country has suppressed the basic socialization rights of people for a very long time. Can you imagine, Co-Education is banned in this country in Universities and schools except for some private schools where it still persists. Result = students graduate as frustrated maniacs who when placed in an environment where they have to confront the opposite sex, they get confused, derailed or act stupid. Many a times when these frustrated students travel abroad, they cross all the limitations of modesty and religion because they want to take out their frustration somewhere. they want to revenge the oppresion they faced in this country in terms of contact with opposite sex. 

Now the Saudi society under King Abdullah wants to make a change but they are scared that since they have kept illogical strict rules over the public for past 100 years, now if they relieve those rules, this might lead to serious consequences.

I still remember that when King Abdullah took over the throne, in his first speech he said that he would very soon allow women to drive. But after so many years, he is still facing problems with that ammendment (thanks to those fanatic Mutawaas). Life of a bachelor is hell in this country specially if its a male. We can&#039;t go in most of the shopping malls alone, we have to dine in singles area in all the restaurants which is damn boring, we cannot meet any non-related women outside (even for professional reasons) and we have absolutely no chance of socializing. 

by the way i am a guy- 21 years old- medical student Riyadh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Bedu, i appreciate your blog as this topic is illogically considered a taboo in this country KSA. I absolutely think that your tips were completely practical and nothing inappropriate was written</p>
<p>PS: I hope you will write more blogs on similar topics for people to read and learn. </p>
<p>As for Fooschie, i completely understand your situation and feel that every normal Straight guy in this country feels the same. Rules are so rigid and strict that the only kind who can thrive in this country happily are the homosexuals probably. Like its frustrating that these rules are made by Iliterate, rigid and conservative members of &#8220;Committee for promotion of virtue and prevention of Vice&#8221;. I think people like Prince Waleed bin Talal should be in control of this country. All the Rulers do is impose rigid islamic laws without putting ENOUGH imphasis on Education, Industrialization and Women rights. </p>
<p>I think dating is perfectly normal if its within the limits of Modesty. Its more of a learning experince than alone just being a romantic ecspasade. I do agree these things exist in Saudi society.</p>
<p>You people said that there are things happening in Saudi society which are more open and wierd than western societies but are kept hidden. I completely agree with you guys on this. but why is this the situation? Why? Because this country has suppressed the basic socialization rights of people for a very long time. Can you imagine, Co-Education is banned in this country in Universities and schools except for some private schools where it still persists. Result = students graduate as frustrated maniacs who when placed in an environment where they have to confront the opposite sex, they get confused, derailed or act stupid. Many a times when these frustrated students travel abroad, they cross all the limitations of modesty and religion because they want to take out their frustration somewhere. they want to revenge the oppresion they faced in this country in terms of contact with opposite sex. </p>
<p>Now the Saudi society under King Abdullah wants to make a change but they are scared that since they have kept illogical strict rules over the public for past 100 years, now if they relieve those rules, this might lead to serious consequences.</p>
<p>I still remember that when King Abdullah took over the throne, in his first speech he said that he would very soon allow women to drive. But after so many years, he is still facing problems with that ammendment (thanks to those fanatic Mutawaas). Life of a bachelor is hell in this country specially if its a male. We can&#8217;t go in most of the shopping malls alone, we have to dine in singles area in all the restaurants which is damn boring, we cannot meet any non-related women outside (even for professional reasons) and we have absolutely no chance of socializing. </p>
<p>by the way i am a guy- 21 years old- medical student Riyadh</p>
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		<title>By: saudi men are the worst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saudi men are the worst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 07:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a cold sore on someones lip is not the same as a sexual disease. educate yourselves. &amp; any man who has to date you secretly is v likely ashamed of you. have some respect for yourself ladies. saudi men are lower then pigs &amp; likely in the closet. if you were aware of their actions in other countries you might be amazed how low they will go. maybe saudi women deserve better!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a cold sore on someones lip is not the same as a sexual disease. educate yourselves. &amp; any man who has to date you secretly is v likely ashamed of you. have some respect for yourself ladies. saudi men are lower then pigs &amp; likely in the closet. if you were aware of their actions in other countries you might be amazed how low they will go. maybe saudi women deserve better!</p>
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		<title>By: American Bedu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Bedu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Fooschie, 

I really do not know what to say but can feel your frustration clearly through your words.  I think the denials and prohibitions can in turn make a situation much more volatile, as you have pointed out. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fooschie, </p>
<p>I really do not know what to say but can feel your frustration clearly through your words.  I think the denials and prohibitions can in turn make a situation much more volatile, as you have pointed out. </p>
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