Comments on: The Fallen Saudi Woman – A Scenario

By: American Bedu

American Bedu — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:53:30 +0000

Thanks for sharing Jammy and glad you liked the post!

By: Jammy

Jammy — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:16:42 +0000

I had to comment this. Except I would change the title to “The Fallen Arab Woman – A Scenario”, to distinguish I’m not Saudi. But let me tell you, you really hit the jackpot about these guys. Thankfully, the situation never got out of hand, but seriously, you ordered it perfectly. It begins with the comments, then the meetings, then surprise!

Really though, you must hand it to these guys. It’s more shameful (in some cases, if you know what I mean) than it is impressive, but Saudi men know how to lure the ladies in!

By: American Bedu

American Bedu — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:51:13 +0000

Reuters picked up this post:

http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/entertainment?bbPostId=B6kcqoGH9Pf8Bzn7nRZ5sNNoB1njqNYDI5Z5B7Tx3bTEcf7A

By: American Bedu

American Bedu — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:04:09 +0000

Beautiful comment, Inal and thanks!

By: INAL

INAL — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:05:47 +0000

Hmm… To marry early or later… Well my first marriage was at 19 while my mom married at 29 (unusual for Latin Americans in her time)- I divorced at an earlier age, my mom at a later age- my mom never remarried, yet I did- and the second time around I was better prepared for a husband, motherhood, work and life in general.

My children all say they will marry later in life; one because his career choice at the moment would get in the way of a solid and healthy marriage; the middle one because she is all into what she wants to do and college; the youngest because well quite frankly is oblivous to boys- being a tom boy all her friends but one soul buddy are boys- they call each other sand box buddies because they have known each other since pre-school-

Yet my two daughters know the consequences of the “social stigma” still prevelant in our Moorish (Arab/Spanish) society… They hear all sorts of stories and they see others of their age though not necessarily peers and the mess they can make of their lives if not careful- but they chose not to be the same- and this is to our family the important point- choices… To have them can at times, though not always, bring the stress level and peer pressure down a few notches and give enough room to breath and wait for the “murky” waters to settle so they can then stand up for want they believe is true of themselves…

Latins all too well understand the concept of fallen women- at times I used to think we not only invented the concept but walked right into it with eyes open shut… Not as much as a few decades ago…

Fallen once, a mistake; fallen a few times you may need to get your “eyes” checked- and I am not generalizing about Saudi Women or any woman for that matter- but its human to err- repeatedly though may be the result of some faulty thought process and action.

By: American Bedu

American Bedu — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:51:28 +0000

I think many women (girls actually) marry too early here in KSA before they have a clue about married life or even like Andrea pointed out, understand themselves. That is no way saying she should be sexually experienced before marriage but hope to have gained some maturity in order to be a good wife and eventually a mother.

By: ummadam

ummadam — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:08:11 +0000

@Andrea I hope you were kidding when you said: get married early.. instead of understanding our bodies, their functions, interpersonal relations, self esteem, having a connection with our mates instead of giving up as children, basically, and having experiential life over before one is even mature enough to understand it? no way. I think noone should marry until they’re at least 28-30, no babies until 32-34 (if at all). If not that is the most closed minded and extreme view I've ever read. It is precisely that type of thought that makes people think the Western women are all tramps.

By: Nzingha

Nzingha — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:26:04 +0000

bedu- your summing up every hormonal girl in the world every girl no matter what culture gets all the blame (and a possible big belly) they all think ‘not me’ or ‘i’ll be the one’. Saudi however is unique in the physical consequences when caught by authorities and family..and that hymen reconstruction is a chosen surgical option

By: American Bedu

American Bedu — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:05:39 +0000

A fact is that the divorce rate in Saudi Arabia is on the rise. The reasons for this fact can be debatable.

You’re right Nzingha – it can go both ways but sadly the women would be subject to greater consequences than the men. And to a degree many of the “women” (girls) are so naive. They may know what they are doing in attempting to attact a man but their maturity level is no where near how “aged” they may have made themselves appear.

By: Nzingha

Nzingha — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:02:09 +0000

This makes men look like the lion on the prowl and the women the unsuspecting little animals jumped on from behind. But errr these girls aren’t so unknowing, unwilling, unsuspecting, and wooed. They are active, seeking, knowing, and hoping that they won’t be the one to be dumped. Just like any other girl in the world who actively seeks male attention thinking she’ll change it all (yea women you can relate)

I see the girls, w/ their flittering ways, swooshing their rears with open abyas, loads of make up and perfume that leaves it sent long behind them. They have their blue tooths on, giggling with their friends, leading him on. They say nothing as they are followed by the boys through the malls but keep looking back to give a slight smile lettting him know she is willing.

The things I know that go on in this country between the opposite sex (and even same sex) men aren’t the lions and the women the passive prey. They are active seekers and participants knowing they’ll hold all the blame in the end.

They all make active choices knowing the consequences.