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	<title>Comments on: Pets Banned in Saudi Arabia Because Used as Lure to Attract Women</title>
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	<description>Experiences and observations of a former American diplomat now married to a Saudi and living in KSA...</description>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought that hadith was about a bedouin peeing in the mosque - and the mosque was just an open place with no flloor but the sand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that hadith was about a bedouin peeing in the mosque &#8211; and the mosque was just an open place with no flloor but the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: delhi4cats</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6456</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delhi4cats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aafke, same with cats...they offer love, affection, moral support, protection (in their own way) as well as hairballs, hair, shredded papers..... (smile)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aafke, same with cats&#8230;they offer love, affection, moral support, protection (in their own way) as well as hairballs, hair, shredded papers&#8230;.. (smile)</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aafke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s also a hadith that tells how a dog peed in the courtyard of the mosque, and mohammed said just to pour some water over it.
Sounds pretty relaxed to me.
The hadith about cleaning your bowls after your dog has eaten from it ranges from 3 times, to 7 times and once with dirt. 
What I find interesting is, not only that it is apparently normal to have a dog, but even that it&#039;s apparently normal to have your dog eating from your bowls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also a hadith that tells how a dog peed in the courtyard of the mosque, and mohammed said just to pour some water over it.<br />
Sounds pretty relaxed to me.<br />
The hadith about cleaning your bowls after your dog has eaten from it ranges from 3 times, to 7 times and once with dirt.<br />
What I find interesting is, not only that it is apparently normal to have a dog, but even that it&#8217;s apparently normal to have your dog eating from your bowls.</p>
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		<title>By: coolred38</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ann

Actually dogs were a part of the Arab life before Islam and hadith came along. Through my extensive reading on the subject it would appear that in all likely hood an outbreak of rabies occured that caused people to fear dogs. Better to be safe then sorry and harm society by having dogs in an age when vaccines were unavailable...so forbid the owning of dogs...except for certain circumstances. There is no mention of owning dogs being forbidden in the Quran...while pigs are mentioned as being forbidden to eat...so it would appear that it would be plausible that the forbidden ayat would be there...if it was actually forbidden by God...and not just something Arabs accepted over time. 

Now days we have soap and water...anti bacterial soaps...vaccines etc that protect society from potential harm from dogs and cats...so the original reason to forbid ownership..really doesnt apply any more...and like slavery...can die out and be forgotten.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann</p>
<p>Actually dogs were a part of the Arab life before Islam and hadith came along. Through my extensive reading on the subject it would appear that in all likely hood an outbreak of rabies occured that caused people to fear dogs. Better to be safe then sorry and harm society by having dogs in an age when vaccines were unavailable&#8230;so forbid the owning of dogs&#8230;except for certain circumstances. There is no mention of owning dogs being forbidden in the Quran&#8230;while pigs are mentioned as being forbidden to eat&#8230;so it would appear that it would be plausible that the forbidden ayat would be there&#8230;if it was actually forbidden by God&#8230;and not just something Arabs accepted over time. </p>
<p>Now days we have soap and water&#8230;anti bacterial soaps&#8230;vaccines etc that protect society from potential harm from dogs and cats&#8230;so the original reason to forbid ownership..really doesnt apply any more&#8230;and like slavery&#8230;can die out and be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aafke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I was getting a bit too sentimental here... They also share out puke, hairs, hairs, and hairs. And like to sit on my clean laundry, sit on my laptop, and throw over the dustbin, etc. etc. etc...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I was getting a bit too sentimental here&#8230; They also share out puke, hairs, hairs, and hairs. And like to sit on my clean laundry, sit on my laptop, and throw over the dustbin, etc. etc. etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aafke</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aafke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need my dog. For protection, mental support, and company. And, thanks to God, there are animals created that share out nothing but love, loyalty and affection.
I hope I will be always aware and fully appreciative of all that is beautiful and good, and which is offered to us in this world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need my dog. For protection, mental support, and company. And, thanks to God, there are animals created that share out nothing but love, loyalty and affection.<br />
I hope I will be always aware and fully appreciative of all that is beautiful and good, and which is offered to us in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: delhi4cats</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delhi4cats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly when I was doing a special for Saudi TV about Pets in the Kingdom and interviewing a well-known vet, I learned that dogs are now more popular as a pet in the Kingdom than cats and we are not talking about use as a guard dog either!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly when I was doing a special for Saudi TV about Pets in the Kingdom and interviewing a well-known vet, I learned that dogs are now more popular as a pet in the Kingdom than cats and we are not talking about use as a guard dog either!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously, this won&#039;t be a popular opinion, but... the Arab News likes to make things look ridiculous, so I&#039;d like to see what the official statement actually said.

But I&#039;m sure some of you must know that in Islam, it is not allowed to have dogs unless there&#039;s a reason - like a guard dog or one on a farm. The different schools of law may be slightly different, but for most Muslims, having a dog touch you (especially its saliva or wet fur) is a problem - you have to thoroughly wash those clothes or dishes or whatever it touches. And there are hadiths which prohibit buying and selling cats and/or dogs. (Although having a pet cat is no problem, as long as it&#039;s not mistreated.)

Until recently, it was rare to see people walking around with pet dogs in this region. The fact is that most Muslims don&#039;t want that a dog touching them, and it&#039;s a major annoyance. (In fact, before I was ever a Muslim, I hated that, simply because I&#039;ve never been fond of dogs.)

Of course, Islam doesn&#039;t allow abusing animals in any way; there are hadiths about people getting Paradise for helping animals, and others being condemned to Hell for mistreating them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, this won&#8217;t be a popular opinion, but&#8230; the Arab News likes to make things look ridiculous, so I&#8217;d like to see what the official statement actually said.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure some of you must know that in Islam, it is not allowed to have dogs unless there&#8217;s a reason &#8211; like a guard dog or one on a farm. The different schools of law may be slightly different, but for most Muslims, having a dog touch you (especially its saliva or wet fur) is a problem &#8211; you have to thoroughly wash those clothes or dishes or whatever it touches. And there are hadiths which prohibit buying and selling cats and/or dogs. (Although having a pet cat is no problem, as long as it&#8217;s not mistreated.)</p>
<p>Until recently, it was rare to see people walking around with pet dogs in this region. The fact is that most Muslims don&#8217;t want that a dog touching them, and it&#8217;s a major annoyance. (In fact, before I was ever a Muslim, I hated that, simply because I&#8217;ve never been fond of dogs.)</p>
<p>Of course, Islam doesn&#8217;t allow abusing animals in any way; there are hadiths about people getting Paradise for helping animals, and others being condemned to Hell for mistreating them.</p>
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		<title>By: delhi4cats</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6400</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delhi4cats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not going away.  Today&#039;s english language papers here are now stating that the Muttawa decrees any dogs must be muzzled.

Peggy -- yes; women do ride here.  They ride on private farms, estates as well as a few riding schools.  And no, they do not cover per se when riding.  Most women I know (Saudi and non-Saudi) ride as any woman in the west, uncovered, hair flowing or maybe tucked up in a hat.  However there are a few women who do choose to ride wearing a hijjab but not niqab (hijjab being the hair is covered whereas a niqab only the eyes are visible).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not going away.  Today&#8217;s english language papers here are now stating that the Muttawa decrees any dogs must be muzzled.</p>
<p>Peggy &#8212; yes; women do ride here.  They ride on private farms, estates as well as a few riding schools.  And no, they do not cover per se when riding.  Most women I know (Saudi and non-Saudi) ride as any woman in the west, uncovered, hair flowing or maybe tucked up in a hat.  However there are a few women who do choose to ride wearing a hijjab but not niqab (hijjab being the hair is covered whereas a niqab only the eyes are visible).</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Archer</title>
		<link>http://americanbedu.com/2008/07/31/pets-banned-because-used-as-lure-to-attrack-women/#comment-6398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of horses, do women there ride at all? I can&#039;t imagine trying to ride while covered in a veil - the last horse I had spooked at her own shadow so trying to ride while &#039;covered up&#039; would have been a disaster at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of horses, do women there ride at all? I can&#8217;t imagine trying to ride while covered in a veil &#8211; the last horse I had spooked at her own shadow so trying to ride while &#8216;covered up&#8217; would have been a disaster at best.</p>
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